Warcraft II Shareware support?

Wargus is a Warcraft 2 mod that allows you to play Warcraft 2 with the Stratagus engine.
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Warcraft II Shareware support?

Postby MrFlibble » Tue May 12, 2015 1:18 am

Some posts here in the forums have led me to believe that Wargus can be used with Warcraft II shareware data. However, when I tried to install Wargus v2.3 with the shareware data files, the installer gave me the message that the shareware data directory is not a valid Warcraft II data folder.

Perhaps I was using an unsupported version of Warcraft II shareware? I tried this with v1.20elc, which to the best of my knowledge is the latest electronic download version. There's also an earlier version, v1.02elc BETA, and an enhanced CD version, v1.08sh. Both electronic download ones are available here.

Or did I get this wrong and the shareware files are not usable with Wargus?
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Re: Warcraft II Shareware support?

Postby Kyran » Wed May 13, 2015 1:56 pm

Supporting the shareware version isn't allowed.
04:27 jim4 why haven't you added wc1 support? this project sucks. i'm only going to use freecraft
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Re: Warcraft II Shareware support?

Postby MrFlibble » Mon May 18, 2015 12:45 am

Kyran wrote: isn't allowed.
You mean it's not implemented, or that there are some legal objections to it?
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Re: Warcraft II Shareware support?

Postby Big Daddy » Fri May 22, 2015 4:05 am

Actually, it's partially implemented - along with beta and press-release support.

The problem is the source for the WarTool data extractor is mostly undocumented and hasn't been worked on in ages. Old binaries execute, but the WarTool source in new releases won't even compile under CMake.

As for permission - this is the first I've heard of it being disallowed. There are no legal barriers in Australia, Canada, the US or the UK preventing it, and other projects, such as Doom and Quake source ports, fully support shareware versions and in fact would not be nearly as popular if they did not.

Essentially the point of view is that this is an open-source project - If something is broken, and you care enough to fix it or improve it, you will not find any opposition here.
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Re: Warcraft II Shareware support?

Postby snv » Fri May 22, 2015 4:05 pm

It is possible and it is legal, moreover shareware license even allows unconditional distribution (as long as you don't modify it). AFAIK, shareware package includes most of what the retail includes.

Yet it would likely anger Blizzard even more and they will start DMCA lawsuit against Stratagus, which already circumvents CD copy-protection. I.e. legally speaking stratagus.exe is equivalent to nocd crack for war2.exe.
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Re: Warcraft II Shareware support?

Postby MrFlibble » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:38 pm

snv wrote:Yet it would likely anger Blizzard even more and they will start DMCA lawsuit against Stratagus, which already circumvents CD copy-protection. I.e. legally speaking stratagus.exe is equivalent to nocd crack for war2.exe.
I'm not sure if it would be that much of a problem. After all, Blizzard officially removed CD check with the recent patches for both StarCraft and Warcraft III. They also used to have the answers for the WarCraft: Orcs & Humans manual copy protection check freely available at their old tech support website.

The only thing I can imagine could be "wrong" with the shareware data is if running it in Wargus would allow to play skirmish games against the AI? The original version only allows two-player games without AI opponents.
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Re: Warcraft II Shareware support?

Postby snv » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:36 am

MrFlibble wrote:
snv wrote:Yet it would likely anger Blizzard even more and they will start DMCA lawsuit against Stratagus, which already circumvents CD copy-protection. I.e. legally speaking stratagus.exe is equivalent to nocd crack for war2.exe.
I'm not sure if it would be that much of a problem. After all, Blizzard officially removed CD check with the recent patches for both StarCraft and Warcraft III. They also used to have the answers for the WarCraft: Orcs & Humans manual copy protection check freely available at their old tech support website.

The only thing I can imagine could be "wrong" with the shareware data is if running it in Wargus would allow to play skirmish games against the AI? The original version only allows two-player games without AI opponents.
One thing I can say for sure: supporting shareware version would bring more attention to Stratagus from users and developers. I.e. it has some marketing potential.
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Re: Warcraft II Shareware support?

Postby Big Daddy » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:26 pm

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